Full moon tonight?

Reject sceptics' attempts to derail global climate deal, UN chief urges
Ban Ki-moon urges environment ministers to reject attempts by sceptics to undermine negotiations by exaggerating shortcomings in Himalayan glaciers report.

"Tell the world that you unanimously agree that climate change is a clear and present danger," Ban said.

These are the same faces who less than three months ago couldn't bring themselves to agree on what to do about this 'clear and present danger' at Copenhagen. Some thought we should spend 1% of the GDP of the 'west' on the climate protection of the 'developing world', while others felt that was an empty gesture and we should do more. Still others wanted assurances that this spending was guaranteed to be on top of other aid projects and not instead of.

When you have so many people arguing over what's in it for them it's not really surprising that they can't manage to agree to save the world.

There are the western leaders who pontificate about the subject every day. They've even started denigrating their own populations, calling anyone who disagrees with them flat-earthers, deniers and deluded. They all seem to have their own projects that will raise money, from us, for pie in the sky schemes that will likely see every taxpayer in their country paying more and more. Most of us are already taxed at the 50% mark already. But they will never commit to the demands of the developing world.
It seems to me that politicians in the west just want to raise more tax from us in a way that lets them do it with the least resistance, every single true believer I hear demands that we are taxed more to pay to save the world from a 2C rise in average global temperatures. I'm very wary of anyone who wants me to pay for their beliefs.

Meanwhile the developing world eye this greedily. And they are right to, they can see EU, Canadian, Aussie and US politicians parroting the same lines over and over. They are right to believe they are entitled to a slice of the pie. They say 600 billion a year, the west says maybe 40 and in between the UN thinks they should meet in the middle.

That's why true believers are quite happy to make noises about forcing through policy changes without the consent of the people. They know the politicians are using their hobby horse as a tool to force tax policies in. They know they have no hope of ever convincing the majority of opinion. They really only have one avenue they can go through. Tthe UN, with all it's corruption just happens to be their best hope for changing the world. It's no surprise that the most militant warmists also regularly shout off about social justice and anti-capitalist politics.

As that article above shows in it's punchline: "It should have been urgent last year, but we didn't live up to that urgency", they've got no chance with politicians.